In a recent episode I interviewed Dr. Kelly McCann, an integrative environmental medicine physician who has been working with complex chronic illness for years. We dug into mold toxicity, mast cell activation syndrome (MCAS), chronic infections like Lyme, and the practical first steps anyone can take to feel better. If you're overwhelmed by these topics, I'll break down the essentials in a straightforward way and share simple actions you can take today.
Dr. Kelly trained in integrative and environmental medicine after a fellowship with Dr. Andrew Weil. She studied with clinicians who focused on environmental chemical exposures and later learned Dr. Ritchie Shoemaker's mold protocols. Her interest became personal when she got sick after living in a damp, flat-roofed building in Oregon. Learning about mold and environmental toxins helped explain her symptoms and motivated her to help others.
MCAS is a hypersensitivity condition where mast cells, the immune system's "soldiers at the gate", release inflammatory mediators like histamine, cytokines, serotonin, and heparin inappropriately. In many people with genetic susceptibility, the triggers turn on and don't turn off. Triggers include mold, chronic infections (Lyme, Bartonella), environmental chemicals, EMF, hormones, and even trauma.
Not all molds produce mycotoxins. Mycotoxin-producing molds create metabolites to outcompete other molds. Those metabolites can make people sick. Mold exposure often acts as the straw that breaks the camel's back when someone already carries infections or chemical burdens.
Dr. Kelly points out that modern building practices and materials (impermeable wraps, slab contact with drywall, vinyl flooring) can trap moisture and feed mold growth. Southern California houses, soil molds, and irrigation patterns can also contribute to mold issues.
Testing options range by cost and thoroughness:
Dr. Kelly's approach is twofold: calm mast cells so the person can function, then identify and treat root causes.
Kelly emphasizes that trauma and unresolved life situations can make immune dysregulation worse. She speaks about an "Unforgetting Project": helping people reconnect with their authentic selves and intuitive wisdom. Part of healing for her patients is learning to listen to body-messages, speak their truth, and build emotional and spiritual resilience.
1. Filter your water: PFAS are everywhere and hard to clear from the body.
2. Cut plastic exposure: reduce plastics in food storage, avoid heating food in plastic, and limit synthetic clothing where possible.
3. Keep indoor humidity below 50%: Clean/dry damp areas; get professional mold inspection when in doubt.
4. Protect sleep and nervous system: prioritize sleep quantity and quality, reduce evening screen time.
Q: How do I know if mold or MCAS is part of my problem?
A: Look for multi-system symptoms: chronic fatigue, brain fog, rashes, GI issues, new allergies, and sensitivities. A history of living in a damp environment or unexplained decline after moving or travel raises suspicion.
Q: Can I test a tick I found on me?
A: Yes, ticks can be tested for pathogens for a relatively low cost. Even if you don't get sick immediately, a tick-borne infection can surface later when other stresses occur.
Q: Is bleach or alcohol OK for surface mold?
A: No. Bleach or alcohol can fragment mold and spread antigenic particles. If you suspect mycotoxin-producing molds, get a proper remediation plan and avoid DIY demolition that spreads spores.
Q: Where can I learn more or follow Dr. Kelly?
A: Dr. Kelly maintains a clinical practice in Southern California (The Spring Center) and has resources at drkellymccann.com. She's also working on the Unforgetting Project to help people reconnect with their core intuition and health.
Final Thoughts
If you're overwhelmed by environmental illness or MCAS, start with small, practical steps: filter water, control humidity, reduce plastics, and improve sleep. The rest you can layer in nervous system work, mast cell calmers, testing and remediation.
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